December 20, 2015, 11:48 am
Version is 2.4.2
I'll give those changes a try - thanks for the quick response!
Most of the recordings will be coming from strong stations so I think that will work. We have a few weaker ones from across the lake that can fade out when the weather is bad, but typically I can get the same broadcasts locally in a slightly later time slot. Worst case scenario I can set a filter and process them separately (IIRC MCE puts the station name in the file name). Unfortunately, captions are one of those things that is really noticeable if they're even slightly out of sync so it's worth a little trouble.
Thanks for the great product!
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December 20, 2015, 8:48 pm
I am only messing with the free version but couldn't see if this was possible from documentation. No matter what I did converting to MP4 you don't get the nice metata and view from media center unless I am missing something. Is there another option. Also the renamining is poor but I see paid version says has better more reliable naming.
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December 20, 2015, 8:48 pm
I am only messing with the free version but couldn't see if this was possible from documentation. No matter what I did converting to MP4 you don't get the nice metata and view from media center unless I am missing something. Is there another option. Also the renamining is poor but I see paid version says has better more reliable naming.
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December 20, 2015, 8:54 pm
I noticed if I copied WTV to WTV it reset the keep until to Keep until Delete. Where is this stored in the file as I can't find it in the properties?
I have 8,000 recordings! Due to missing the keep until delete in an upgrade of windows I ended up with many with keep until space needed and have had random shows deleting even though reasonable space left 1TB!
Since I put my WTV files that had keep until space needed into another media center and they keep the keep until setting and MCEBuddy seems to strip it out there must be somewhere in the file that sets this and logic says it should be in the properties. Any clues as I want to find and bulk change that setting. I could run everything through MCEBuddy but it would take a long time and I am not sure if it would reliably work anyway.
Thanks for any info on this.
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December 21, 2015, 5:38 am
Yes the newer builds can convert to H.264 WTV
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December 21, 2015, 5:40 am
That info is not stored inside the WTV but rather in MCE's own database. When a WTV is converted back to a WTV the metadata is copied over byte for byte with the exception of one or two which are updated (like duration etc which may have changed
during the conversion).
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December 21, 2015, 5:51 am
Thanks, that's strange as when I move the file to another media center it seems to keep the same keep until settings. You don't have any idea which file contains this data do you?
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December 21, 2015, 6:28 am
Can't say for sure but I think it looks at the metadata in the recording to determine how long to keep it (maybe recording date etc).
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December 21, 2015, 10:26 am
Ok I found the database and deleted and rebuilt. I then completely uninstalled media center and all directories as per thegreenbutton.tv then I gave up an reinstalled windows 8.1 after formatting the disk. This took quite a while setting everything up. Still programs remember delete until settings. I then setup a Virtual Machine and dragged the files into that media center same result. There is something in the file that flags how long to keep the recording. It would be nice to set media center up to just not delete at all and give a warning. Problem is every install it flags new recordings to keep until space needed and WMC seems to have a mind of its own on when that happens and it occurs without warning. I lost 50 programs in the last week before I noticed probably only really wanted 5. So now I know if I run the files through your app it will clean them up to keep until delete but thats going to take forever for 8,000! There seems to be no easy way to change this and it takes quite a few keystrokes to change the keep until settings on each recording. I would be happy to convert everything to MP4 but I don't undersand how that works, obviously media center really only wants to see WTV files, the meta data does not transfer to videos placed in Videos folder for Media Center.
I guess what people are doing is WMC for recording PVR then another front end.
The more I read I just wish Microsoft worked on WMC where it has remained virtually abandoned since VISTA with only very minor tweaks.
What is the best workflow and Playback device that will work with WMC as a recorder, MCEBuddy as converter and then something to play back that gives me more value than WMC? I have used WMC since 2005.
Thanks for your time, I will donate even if I don't use the new version just because you have answered questions that no one does anywhere else including thegreenbutton.tv
Edit: Donated now
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December 21, 2015, 4:50 pm
With SageTV MCEBuddy will take the file and convert it. but it doesn't seem able to use SageTV's metadata - My MCEbuddy is setup to place the show in a \server\share\showname\Season folder and to name the show SxxExx-EpisodeName.
MCEBuddy places the show in a folder that includes SageTVs DB ID - so every episode winds up in it's own \server\share\SagetvDBID folder.
Is there someway to get MCEbuddy to organize SageTV files?
And in a related question, I know you've been working hard on the SiliconDust PVR solution, but I'm also looking into EmbyTV - is getting meta data from EmbyTV available or planned?
Any pointers on setting up MCEBuddy for SageTV and EmbyTV would be appreciated!
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December 21, 2015, 5:08 pm
What's your goal? Remove commercials ? Rename only?
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December 21, 2015, 5:10 pm
You know you can change the DEFAULT settings in WMC to not delete. Then you can delete it manually.
The reason new files are marked delete until required is because that's what you default setting is set to
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December 21, 2015, 5:12 pm
It should work fine.
1. Make sure you are using the latest version of MCEbuddy
2. Attach a link to your conversion log file or go through it to see what metadata it is extracting.
As for EMbyTV. Do you know what format and where the metadata is stored?
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December 21, 2015, 6:07 pm
Thanks my goal is to stop recordings from deleting without notice when WMC thinks 1TB is low disk space. I setup windows 8.1 some time back and it went for quite a while where the default delete option was set keep until space needed, that option is applied at record time not on existing recordings. I changed it to keep until delete quite a while later but now I have recordings deleting because they don't have keep until delete set.
I assume you know how many remote operations it takes to change this for every recording so nothing deletes but I get a low disk warning that I can manage :-)
So Goal make media center think all WTV files are tagged "Keep until Delete"
On the remove comercials that would be great but I don't have the confidence. I'm in Australia and use VideoRedo TV if I want to get rid of comercials and it has false positives so it takes a while to go through manually. If Videoredo was the ad detection and I ran it on automatic I would not like to lose real content. Maybe your software is more reliable but I read people have problems and have to fiddle a lot. Down the track I might look at an other Media Player and use WMC as a back end PVR but I still like Recorded TV it keeps things easily accessible and fairly reliable. I was hoping someone would know a quick way to sort and identify different keep until WTV recordings so I could limit how many I have to change or have a fast way of bulk changing.
I experimented with the free MCEBuddy and WTV - WTV seemed to change the file although I checked before and after and they look identical properties except created and modified date of today but suprisinginly size was smaller using the WTV Unprocessed in MCEBuddy 2.3 Release 13. I did notice it did fast remuxing. It also then shows in media Center as the perfect "Keep until Delete" not sure why size smaller though as not sure what it is remuxing?
It takes some time though and not sure if it will effect recordings adversely might have to experiment. I paid and got the login so will get latest version. I might do WTV to WTV mpg4. I liked MP4 as an option but in Media Center shows next to no metadata. If I could see on an other player similar layout and useability in an other app I would move away from playing back from recorded TV and get out of the proprietary WTV container.
If you have any suggestions on player and what format will work best I am open to suggestions but each time I try and move away from WMC it seems to get complicated. Thanks for all your help.
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December 21, 2015, 6:50 pm
Thanks for the suggestion. I ended up deleting my conversion tasks and creating just one new task with filename filter .wtv;~NMPBS*
which processes only non-PBS shows. It seems to populate when I start the conversion.
One further question: I can't seem to find how to tell MCEBuddy to delete the source .wtv file after the Comskip conversion. I see the option to delete manually added
source files, but not how to delete source files in the monitored locations that meet my filename filters. Is there an option to do this?
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December 21, 2015, 7:22 pm
> So Goal make media center think all WTV files are tagged "Keep until Delete"
Then see my previous post. The setting is defined in the WMC settings, nothing to do with the files. the files data is just used to calculate the expiration date - for your purpose you need to configure WMC to NOT delete any files.
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December 21, 2015, 7:23 pm
Monitor Task -> Expert Settings
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December 21, 2015, 7:30 pm
Perfect. Thank you...knew I had seen it somewhere.
My compliments on MCEBuddy which is really helping me make the best use of my HTPC.
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December 21, 2015, 7:33 pm
Yes exactly thanks you set the setting to "Keep to Delete" will work on all NEW recordings. I still have 8,000 old recordings to search through and fix. That setting is baked into the WTV file somewhere. Have files with different "keep to" settings and copy them to other WMC and the settings go with the file. I am trying to make all the Old files Keep until Delete. Sorry I must not have been clear enough. Thanks for following up.
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December 22, 2015, 1:27 am
Not that I'm aware of but you can try this:
Download this software DVREdit
Open your WTV file which has the issue in it and look through all the metadata items to see if you can find anything that might resemble the keep until option (it may be a code or a string or a date or number). If you find it post back and we'll see what
can be done.
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